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# [The Most Profitable Estate Planning Talk to Have With Clients](https://info.wealthcounsel.com/blog/the-most-profitable-estate-planning-talk-to-have-with-clients-0)

 Nov 9, 2018 6:00:00 AM

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Much of life follows the [**80/20**](http://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/80-20-rule.asp) rule. Also known as the Pareto Principle (named for the Italian economist who devised it), this formula calculates that 20% of your conversations are responsible for 80% of the profitability of the relationship. That holds true whether it’s business or personal.

So what’s the single most profitable conversation an estate planning attorney can have with a client? For many, it will be the in-depth conversation you have during the initial interview process. This conversation is crucial. When it goes well, your client will see the value of your services and become your brand advocate and source of repeat business. They will understand the issues unique to their estate and how you will help them overcome those issues. They’ll know that they will need to return to update their estate plan over time. And they will be aware of other legal solutions you provide, such as business planning.  

**Read our Insight Brief, “[5 Mistakes Not to Make During Your Client Interview](https://www.wealthcounsel.com/articles/2017/which-of-these-5-mistakes-are-you-making-during-your-client-interviews)”**

#### Wants vs. Needs

There’s a tendency for clients to stay open and flexible during that initial meeting. While they may have an idea of what they want, you must ask the questions that will reveal what they really need:

- What are their priorities?
- What assets, debts, and liabilities might affect their estate?
- What are their deepest fears when it comes to their estate?

For example, a husband in a second marriage wants to provide for his spouse after his death. But he’s worried that her kids, not his, will eventually inherit his assets. The answer may be a [**Qualified Terminable Interest Property (Q-TIP) Trust**](https://www.wealthcounsel.com/index.php/articles/2017/rev-proc-2016-49-clarifies-relationship-between-qtip-planning-and-portability), which allows the spouse to receive income from the trust during her lifetime, without controlling the principal. When she dies, his beneficiaries receive the assets. In this scenario, the client knew what he wanted, and you knew what he needed and helped him address those needs.

#### Business Succession

When a client has spent a lifetime building a successful business, the right [**succession plan**](https://www.wealthcounsel.com/index.php/articles/2016/flexible-tax-strategies-now-needed-in-succession-planning-for-business-owners) is imperative for the company to continue after the client’s death. An in-depth conversation with a business owner offers the opportunity to create the best plan based on the individual enterprise. Discuss options such as an Employee Purchase and Bonus, a [**Buy/Sell Agreement**](https://www.wealthcounsel.com/index.php/downloads/2016/buy-sell-agreement-checklist), a Stay Bonus and other arrangements.

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